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 Post subject: Re: Rogue rotation
PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:13 pm 
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Chromeeh wrote:
*takes a leap*


*BUMP*

Wobble needs some help....
She's read the Elitist Jerks guide about combat dps.
She's using the 20/51/0 build, but Wobble can do more, even with her current gear.
Should I buy her Dual spec and grab 51/18/2 with some daggers?

She does about 2 ~ 2.4K dps in HC's now, but it feels a bit... low, some how.

Pilk, Morth, Sand some advise?Image


Well...we almost dinged at same time..but what i did was that i found me a nice spreadsheat named iDPS..its Java based..start it and load you char from armory.
It tells you where to find upgrades, where it drops. Tells you how much you dps increase if you change gems. Tells you the dps diff on enchants.
One thing you need to be aware of is that if you change one thing then you need to check everything again..but it is so easy to use..

And for Assa i use a addon called "Mut"..pretty much tells you the rotation on singel targets..and tells you when you cds is ready again...then you ready to out dps any combat rogue if they dont outgear you by far.. did around 11-12k on boss's in a ICC25 pug this week with 2 lvl 232 daggers..and outdps all those gearscore freaks..

Assa vs Combat is a bit of a trade of as i see it..Assa do amanzing singel target dps even with less gear where combat is more gear depending but do way better Aoe and better on target switching..so I switch around for best performance..and at my gear lvl 40Atp is still the better gem choise for both spec.so i only need to change my weapon and 1 trinket...probelly gone be a issue later. But for now it works ok.

But besides that..and you are a gnome and that means you can only use daggers since axes and swords are way to heavy for ya..you short one..


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue rotation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:31 am 
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Bewitched wrote:
But besides that..and you are a gnome and that means you can only use daggers since axes and swords are way to heavy for ya..you short one..


I'm a strong gnome Image

I'll run some numbers with Rawr and iDps today, but I think I'll change spec to this build.
I've gotten to the point where more tuning is required, I also going to try the 'Mut' addon Image

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue rotation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:18 pm 
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No Fleet Footed? My inner rogue hungers for your blood >:D
I suppose your 3rd glyph is personal preference but personally I'd take TotT (bigger threatdump = win)

Back me up here Morth! ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue rotation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:56 pm 
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Kazoku wrote:
No Fleet Footed? My inner rogue hungers for your blood >:D
I suppose your 3rd glyph is personal preference but personally I'd take TotT (bigger threatdump = win)

Back me up here Morth! ;)

~K


This man speaks truth. Not taking Fleet Footed is fail unless you're on a deadly brew spec for a very specific reason. You need to move in practically every fight and hence it's a dps upgrade. Quick recovery is useless at or near expertise cap, and if you're not at or near expertise cap you're doing something wrong. Seriously, that talent hasn't been needed since early Naxx 10. Drop those points and put them in Fleet Footed.

And for god's sake take ToTT as your first glyph. No other glyph available to you will boost raid dps by as much. And if you're mutilate there's no other glyph for the 'third' slot that boosts your personal dps. So just do it.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue rotation
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:34 am 
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I used a stock build to start out with...
It needs some tuning Image

Edit: Shall I take 2 points from Relentless Strikes and put it into Fleet Footed?

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue rotation
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:43 pm 
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Chromeeh wrote:
Edit: Shall I take 2 points from Relentless Strikes and put it into Fleet Footed?


nonononononononono. drop points from Quick Recovery, there's a good gnome.
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 Post subject: Re: Rogue rotation
PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:32 am 
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Kazoku wrote:
Chromeeh wrote:
Edit: Shall I take 2 points from Relentless Strikes and put it into Fleet Footed?


nonononononononono. drop points from Quick Recovery, there's a good gnome.
<3

~K


Note taken, I've also installed that Mut addon :)
Must say it's quite handy :D

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